Wednesday, October 3, 2012

Sovereign Citizen President Indicted for Tax Crimes


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Sovereign Citizen President Indicted for Tax Crimes
Posted By: Revel [Send E-Mail]
Date: Wednesday, 3-Oct-2012 01:58:37
In Response To: CGI's BillsBest: Feds Take Aim at the Republic for the u(sic)nited States of America (Susoni)

September 18, 2012
James Timothy Turner, the self-styled “president” of the Republic for the united States of America (RuSA), was indicted today on charges of conspiracy to defraud the federal government and several other tax charges, including attempting to pay taxes with a fictitious financial instrument and attempting to obstruct an Internal Revenue Service investigation.
Based in the southeast Alabama town of Ozark, Turner heads what is likely the largest and most organized group of antigovernment “sovereign citizens” in the country.
According to the federal indictment announced Tuesday, Turner is alleged to have attempted to pay his own taxes with a fictitious $300 million bond and to have assisted others who wanted to get out of paying taxes with similar bonds ranging from $10 million to $300 million, the FBI said in a joint statement with the Internal Revenue Service and the Justice Department.
Turner burst onto the sovereign citizens scene in 2007 with a series of seminars claiming he could help his clients get out of paying mortgages, credit card debt and income tax bills. But with RuSA, which he formed in 2010, Turner went a step further, setting out to form a shadow government that he claimed would lie in waiting for the day the federal government crumbled.
“We, the people of the United States of America, are the most powerful force on earth,” Turner once said in a video posted online after RuSA was formed. “We’re more powerful than any government on earth. … We are a nation of kings.”
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/18/sovereign-citizen-%E2%80%98president%E2%80%99-indicted-for-tax-crimes/
Sovereign citizens claim that they are not subject to most taxes, are not citizens of the United States (but instead are "non-resident aliens"), cannot be tried for crimes in which there is no complaining victim (zoning and professional licensing violations, for instance), and are only subject to "common law courts," a sort of people's tribunal with no lawyers. Most refuse to obtain Social Security cards, register their vehicles, carry driver's licenses or use zip codes...
James Timothy Turner
In February 2011, Turner caused a stir among his followers when he sent them a letter insisting that the future “Republic” he hopes to create will be a Christian nation – an idea many sovereigns do not agree with. He lambasted a series of nine U.S. presidents, blaming them for everything from an exploding national debt to “rampant homosexuality” to the “intentional poisoning of our people.” And Turner focused in on President Obama: “He is not even a lawful American citizen,” he said. “He is a Muslim which [sic] are sworn to kill anyone who is not Muslim.”
Around the same time, Turner announced that he was forming a militant wing of RuSA, to be called the American Rangers. Although it’s unclear if that ever really happened, law enforcement officials near his south Alabama town said they had seen armed “marshals of the Republic” patrolling in the area.
Some of the statements Turner made in weekly calls with his followers were bizarre even for sovereigns, such as his claim to have cured leukemia in five days. He repeatedly offered vague but electrifying accounts of attempts to assassinate him by the federal government. “It didn’t work out so well, not for them at least,” he told followers of one supposed attempt in Virginia.
In one of his weekly calls, a follower asked Turner to explain what really happened when, as some people believe, an alien spacecraft crashed in 1947 near Roswell, N.M. His jaw-dropping reply: “I’m not going to tell you they [aliens] exist or don’t exist. What I’m going to say is every nation on Earth, or every industrialized nation on Earth at least, has a treaty with them.” (the crazy thing is that's more than likely true.. how would he know that? - rev)
In February 2012, a bank foreclosed on two parcels of rural land totaling roughly 52 acres belonging to Turner after he failed to make payments on a mortgage dating to June 2006. The same day the foreclosure was filed, the land was auctioned from the steps of the Dale County (Ala.) Courthouse. The bank bought the land, and there wasn’t a peep of protest from Turner, despite having burst onto the sovereign scene in 2007 peddling mortgage relief strategies.
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/profiles/james-timothy-turner
: Posted by Charleston Voice
: This is a strange one, and especially so since much of its
: content originated with the SPLC (link below). Our site has
: several posts alerting the reader to the SPLC advising
: federal agencies of targeted “patriot” groups. Could this
: be a true instance of the SPLC being duplicitous in murder
: by law enforcement agencies? More needs to come to light
: before reaching a conclusion.
: In 1776, the “Declaration of Independence” was announced,
: declaring that the united States was independent and no
: longer part of the British Empire.
: The Declaration of Independence was one of the founding
: documents of the Republic for the u(sic)nited States of
: America, a group that formed – believe it or not – in 2010
: and calls itself, “…the largest and most organized
: sovereign group in the United States today.” (1)
: According to the Republic for the united States of America’s
: website, the right to re-inhabit is a lawful component of
: the 1776 declaration, as well as the “right to change,
: alter or abolish any system of government that we believe
: is contrary to the safety and security of the American
: people.” (2)
: In 2010, Tim Turner was elected as the President of the
: Republic for the united States (RuSA), winning the vote
: among 50 ‘Grand Juries’ across America. Read more>>
:
http://chasvoice.blogspot.com/2012/10/feds-take-aim-at-republic-for-usicnited.html

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is deception.
If he's sovereign, what is he doing filing a tax return?
He'll have to accept the 'contract' in order to be accused of failing to perform the obligations of it.

And he was the President of his own nation! Why would he cross jurisdictional boundaries and step into the corporation to do business?

As leader of his own nation and as sovereign, he has the right to contract or not contract.

I feel he's led many down a path that is supposed to teach them 'who controls' them, when the TRUTH is you belong to your self. No one controls you.

Tim Turner either works for them or is incompetent to lead a group of people out of Egypt.

If this were true, it's like Moses leading the people to the Red Sea and going back and paying the taxes to the Pharaoh on what he received, before the sea parted.

Then the Pharaoh comes after him for not paying enough or not filing in time or some other outlandish reason.

He was the wrong leader. When you walk out of Egypt you do not recognize the authority of anyone in there, but you can see them as your equal.

Legal Maxim: An equal has no power over an equal.

Anonymous said...

As a Citizen of the Republic in leadership I can see very little truth in the post or the response. Confusion/dis-information is still part of the scene. The truth always shows through and will win.

Anonymous said...

Soveriegn citizen ? damn you people are dumb ! you cant be sovereign and be a citizen, your either sovereign or not. Turner was a treasonous piece of shit the corporation sent in to confuse and steal from the people. when are all you gonna learn. oh thats right you dont want to be sovereign you all are to chicken shit to stand up for yourselves, be a real man/women stand up and FIGHT !! COWARDS !!!!

Anonymous said...

Errors abound in this article. There were NOT 50 grand juries "electing" Turner president. A distinction needs to be made between what Turner did and the movement that he co-opted. The Restore America Plan was in existence BEFORE Turner showed up. When he came to the Plan and started to try to take it into areas not germane to the original plan, a number of the executive board LEFT. He announced one of the three originators of the plan was leaving- no word was heard from the other two. In our state something smelled a bit fishy. We did NOT "vote" for Turner and neither did a number of other states. 47 or so de jure Grand Juries are still lawfully constituted and could conceivably be called to serve. We took an oath to that end. In my state many of the original 27 are still ready...

Anonymous said...

The situation appears to be very simple; Turner's mouth is possibly a million times bigger than his brain. That would explain everything.

Anonymous said...

These people arent sovereign they submit and are governed by the Constitution so they couldnt be sovereign. They pay the txes they are required to pay by the Constitution. They arent required to pay federal corporation code and statute taxes because those are volutary and require the consent/contract of the people.While I'm on the subject these people have done nothing different that the U.S. Federal Corporation/ congress all the rulers of code and statute havent already done. Why do you think your politicians dont have to pay taxes or if they do its a small percentage compared to what they earn. Read Show me the law blog for more info. Its straight law and understandable to the lay person. These people arent wackos they are reading the law exactly how it is written. We could allow McDonalds corporate code and statute to rule us but if we quit mcDonalds we no longer have to wear the uniforms and sling burgers so just as the Lakotah Nation have done by declaring they are a republic so to did these people. Now as far as Tim is concerned heres his chance to prove what he's saying, but until, why dont people do some homework because as far as I know your Queen is your only sovereign and your 1040 forms, that you the American people pay from your hard earned money, are a tribute to the queen of England file 6209. look this up and then tell me that although he makes mistakes, he isnt right about what he's been saying.
The thing is... everyone wants someone else to stand up and when that someone else stands up and is accused everyone goes on a hate lust, its like a frenzy of un-educated sheeple who are worried they will be next if they dont go with the agenda rather than the actual law. No one has a problem with legal , lawful taxes but just to pay a monarchy because she exist wow what sheeple. READ THE LAW FOR YOURSELF, if taxes really did take care of our infrastructure and our trade policies why is it that the only industry that is left in America is military industries and survalence industries. So if you the people can do better then you would do it lawfully and read and study the law and your rights and if you arent willing to put yourself in the leaders seat and take the consequences of being a leader then maybe we should shut our mouths and find out for orselves or show in the laws based on the Constitution where he is wrong. Pretty soon each American under this system will be charged an extra 3500.00 dollars over and above their taxes because of the fiscal cliff you have no choice. So with the attitude you people are putting out enjoy your fiscal cliff charges.
If Tim is a defacto agent and is setting everyone up well I could think of alot of ways other than getting arrested for charges that he never consentd to. He followed the Ucc laws in reporting to the fed and there is a form you file with a bond that exempts you because your personhood is the corporation and corporations dont have to pay much taxes if any. We've wittnessed that by the government and who gets that break in taxes. They have you all fooled.

Anonymous said...

Ah, so the info finally comes out. He 'followed the UCC laws'...'reporting to the fed'....'there is a form you file with a bond that exempts you because of your personhood is the corporation'....'corporations don't have to pay much taxes'.

So the truth gets revealed in bits and pieces.

first of all he's sovereign, right?
1. There is no UCC in his Republic...what is he doing using the corporation UCC?
2. If he created a UCC in his Republic, why did he file his Republic papers in a corporate Democracy?
3. Reporting to the Fed....he's supposed to be a President for heaven's sake, he don't report to no fed, he reports to his own Congress and his own courts...why is he crossing jurisdictional boundaries?
4. There is a form you file and a bond...etc..so he accepted to be the representative of a personhood created by a corporate United States democracy, AND he wants to be a sovereign President of a non-corporate Republic form of government. You can't have your feet in both venues at the same time. You either are, or aren't, but you can't split your personality like that. His sovereign bond had no business crossing over into the corporation's territory and jurisdictional boundary. He committed a trespass.
5. Corporations don't have to pay much taxes...that's a lie. All of us have been treated as corporate entities without our knowledge and the tax base for the lower income has been higher than the higher income. Corporations are supposed to pay taxes, they are doing business. The people who have been tricked by deception into being representatives of mini corporations and presumed that our work is profit, do not owe taxes. The people are not going about the 'business of living our lives'. Our life is not a 'business'. All these play on words are nothing but that....'play'...and play time is over!

This man is not fit to lead a group of sovereigns. He is the leader of the people he is supposed to lead. If they have no clue and their leader has no clue, then they have no clue that their leader has no clue. He was supposed to surround himself with people who know...and he's either taking the entire nation down with him or he's working on the inside and using this as a stepping stone to something else as he hands over the rest of his 'people' to the authorities, he feels he has to report to.

Someone has ties to this man. He is not a God, nor a creator, but people who won't stand on their own two feet to be sovereign will accept anyone that steps up and takes over, as their leader.

A bunch of sheep will follow a goat with a bell straight into hell.

Anonymous said...

Remember, We are all connected to one another and saying someone is a treasonous piece of shit? being connected to this person what does that make you?
How can we have peace in this world when so many are spitting so much hate?
Let go of the ego and love all people.We are the light of this world so let's shine and let's live for today
Love and Light is all we need

Love you all

Anonymous said...

I believe you hit the nail on the head. They dont want anyone know the truth. So anyone who starts to tell it and people start to take notice of, they make there examples of. Tim is there example. You step out of line, we will make something up to hide you. I know Tim, he is NOT what they make him to be. I also know Monte Ervin. Monte had and never had ANYTHING to do with RAP OR RuSA. It part of your brain washing. Think as we tell you to think, OR your next. Do as we tell you to do OR your next. The Bible tells us to study to show ourselves approved. I dont believe God intended us to study just the Word. We should study ALSO the laws in which we are held accountable. Tim has done this. And many more of us have. The only ones that DO NOT uphold the laws are the ones that make you. READ THE LAWS, study to know the truth. BUT i know. YOUR to lazy, and its easier to just follow. You cant change STUPID! Stupid is what Stupid does. Go back to sleep till they tell you, you can talk now! Show me ONE law Tim broke. I will show you many the FBI and the DOJ and the Judge broke. Who do you think they work for. You can bet they work NOT for you. So who do they work for? If you did any research you would know the answer to this ?. AGAIN; your to lazy to research.

Anonymous said...

Alleged crimes commited occurred prior to Tim Turner becoming President of the Republic. That should take care of most of this discussion!

Anonymous said...

Did anybody happen to be at the hearing on Monday, where the government tried very hard to link the Republic and Tim Turner to so called 'violent sovereigns' (ie the SPLC party line) and the judge calling the government on it? (ie there was no connection?)

Anonymous said...

Why would the corporation send him in, only to prosecute him? That makes no sense.

Anonymous said...

There should be a public notice in USA Today in Friday October 05, 2012 issue regarding public elections in the Republic For the United States.

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