Wednesday, August 13, 2014

Stage3Alpha Chat: "Thoughts on Why the RV/GCR May Have been Stalled Until After Aug.14th"

Stage3Alpha Chat: "Thoughts on Why the RV/GCR May Have been Stalled Until After Aug.14th"

08/13/2014
Is anyone concerned about the derivatives bubble bursting August 14?

Posted by Olewiseone on August 12, 2014 at 8:36pm

Looking for some clarity: Does anyone know what affect the derivatives bubble bursting will have on our bank accounts if it takes place on Aug 14th?

Does the RV need to wait to prevent losing our money or does the RV have to happen first to prevent the bubble from bursting?    Would love some input on this.

Ranger4564 August 13, 2014 at 7:38am

The derivatives holdings are a scam. There is no such wealth, because the banks just printed the money  (digitally even) out of thin air. There are no assets justifying the wealth. There are no holdings. The money that purchased the derivatives never circulated into the economy. It's entirely fraudulent.
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If the Banks collapse on the 14th, it's time to hang all bankers and traders. If the banks collapse and the claim is they are insolvent, they will confiscate all of our money, then we simply burn the banks down and find and hang the cabal derivatives holders.

If the purpose of the 14th day derivatives collapse is to prevent the RV / GCR, we can simply move forward without banks / derivatives.

If Deutsche Bank is collapsed on Thursday, the purpose will be to have that spread fear and risk to everyone. Their purpose is to have it spread so all derivatives will collapse, so the banks can take our real wealth to legitimize their non-existent wealth.

This collapse will only happen now, if the cabal is feeling their game is up, and they need to make a hail mary pass... the plan was to collapse the economy later on maybe next year. If they do it now, that means their timeline has been pushed forward because things are unraveling for them.

Technically, the collapse was supposed to happen a bit earlier, but the citizens of the world, being so oblivious, didn't have any fear, and without fear, the cabal cannot lie and cheat... so they held off.

They have been building that fear in the citizenry for the past 6 years... it's getting close, but things geo-politically and economically are not in their favor yet, so the cabal is working on resolving those things. If they feel they cannot adequately resolve those other things, the cabal will just do the collapse now... hoping they win.

I hope that makes enough sense to piece together the bigger picture. If the collapse occurs, it will be the reaction of the people of the world which determines how the scenario unfolds.

 If people act as if the banks legitimately have the right to restore their wealth, and that we need to save the banks... that's like protecting the child rapist... it would be illogical and wrong, but people frequently make the wrong choice, then the banks are empowered, we're crippled.

If the people realize they've been lied to and refuse to save the banks, then we have the trigger to release us from this debt hell, no more criminal banks, liberation from the fraud perpetrated by the banks.

This really has nothing to do with the RV as far as I'm concerned... if anything, the banks would have preferred we RV'd so that money was in the bank when they stole it.

The RV may have been stalled to avoid losing that money.

The RV may also not occur if the derivatives collapse really happens, and there is no reason to spread the wealth using that mechanism... we'll spread the wealth using a different mechanism. Reallocation / redistribution.

RV will not prevent the derivatives collapse, unless a GCR halts the banker fraud.

Us getting paid will not have any impact on the derivatives. If anything, it might pump the bubble even larger.

GCR might eliminate the derivatives fraud, not sure yet what the plan is. I often suspect the GCR is just a mechanism by the cabal to transfer authority from sovereign nations to the corporations, to steal the remaining hidden wealth of the world by exposing it and confiscating it, and the continued enslavement of humanity. So the fight is not almost over, it has just barely begun.

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Olewiseone > Ranger4564 August 13, 2014 at 8:28am

Ranger…thank you for a well thought out explanation. One thing, I don't think people have a choice in the matter since Obama put into law Jan, 2014, that in the event of a bank collapse money in accounts would go towards paying off the derivatives first.

That means money in accounts would be completely gone since the derivatives number is larger than all account holdings combined. 

I believe what you said is very probable: "The RV may have been stalled to avoid losing that money.

I heard the derivatives was to be included in debt forgiveness, which is why I think the move to collapse the banks is happening now before that occurs.

If the derivatives are forgiven, there would be no collapse and they would have no reason to empty our accounts. Taking action now before the RV, they can't steal money from our exchanges because we haven't done them, however, they can steal money from those who went before us and from all other general citizen accounts. 

I believe your conclusion to be of high probability.

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Donna Skinner August 13, 2014 at 7:27am We have heard intel that says 2 systems are running now (or will be when the new system begins) and when the flip happens, the old system will be shut down, and the new Basil 3 software will begin.

I think all accounts in the presently running system will have been  cleared or a hold put on them, depending on if the monies were obtained in a legal manor.  this may happen during the bank shut down.

Those accounts that were obtained legally, will be or have been transferred to the new basil 3 software.

 I believe when the crash happens, immediately, the public GCR will happen.  They want this to be as smooth transition as possible.

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Ranger4564 > Donna Skinner August 13, 2014 at 7:41am Hi Donna,

That is a very hopeful and entirely plausible scenario. It is absolutely possible. As a counterpoint, my post after yours (took a while to write it) describes other possible scenarios, very pessimistic.

Let's hope your explanation is right.

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Yosh Bhatia August 12, 2014 at 8:57pm

If the derivative bubble bursts... let's just say there is only a trillion dollar ($1,000,000,000,000) exposure...

It will trigger so many issues with other derivatives and bank-2-bank notes and paper that you can pretty much kiss your bank good-bye.  At this point you don't have to worry about your account because the bank that holds the account will be insolvent...

Read the article below and you will see the very near future!!

Fed Vice Chair Fischer On U.S. Bailin "Proposals"

The banks don't have enough assets on their books (on-ledger or off-ledger) to cover the catastrophe that will take place...

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Olewiseone > Yosh Bhatia August 12, 2014 at 9:26pm Yosh...If the bank is insolvent and cannot be bailed out by the fed, what will happen to people's bank accounts? Will they be emptied out by the bank to cover the derivatives? Is my understanding that in the event of a collapse, the derivatives are covered first. So if there aren't enough assets on their books, does that mean accounts can be completely emptied?

If so, it would not make sense to RV before the collapse. Would you agree?

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Suzanne Jenkins > Olewiseone August 12, 2014 at 10:38pm Isn't that what happened in Ireland, Cyprus and Greece and look what happened to them.

At least Irish people kicked out the bankers, deleted all debt and re-established banking without the cabal. 

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Olewiseone > Suzanne Jenkins August 12, 2014 at 11:30pm Pretty simple, isn't it Suzanne!?!

Hopefully, the same will happen here in the US!!!

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beezil > Olewiseone August 13, 2014 at 6:53am It will only happen if People make it happen.... 

but, most just sit around and wait for the few... to DO... what the many should.

All while at the same time... complain


1 comment:

Anonymous said...

The link in this article falsely portrays Canadian banks to be safer from a Bail in/ bail out of corrupt bank debt.
Canada too HAS PASSED BAIL IN LAWS THAT PUT MONEY IN THE BIG CANADIAN BANKS AT RISK OF BEING TAKEN TO SAVE THESE CORRUPT BANKS. DISCERNMENT IS KEY. WHILE DISCLOSING INFOR FOR INVESTORS WE MUST REMEMBER THAT JUST LIKE POLITICS THE CABAL OWNS BOTH OPTIONS.