Thursday, July 23, 2015

Military says "No!" to arming servicemen at U.S. bases



MILITARY SAYS
“NO!” TO ARMING SERVICEMEN AT US MILITARY BASES

MEANWHILE, CITIZENS AREN’T WAITING FOR CONGRESS OR THE PENTAGON TO ACT


 
men standing guard at a recruiting station
SPECIAL: Armed citizens, some alone and others in groups, were standing guard at recruiting centers in Texas, Alabama, Ohio, Virginia and Wisconsin.




WASHINGTON (TNS) — The Defense Department on Wednesday came out squarely against giving weapons to every service member on a domestic military installation, despite a growing clamor in Congress for such a step in the wake of the Tennessee shooting rampage.

Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, said Defense Secretary Ashton Carter is awaiting recommendations from the five military services on fortifying their recruiting centers and domestic bases following the July 15 assault that left six people dead — four Marines, a Navy corpsman and the shooter, Kuwait-born Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez — at a naval reserve center in Chattanooga.

“We do not support arming all military personnel for a variety of reasons,” Davis told reporters at the Pentagon. “(There are) safety concerns, the prohibitive cost for use-of-force and weapons training, qualification costs as well as compliance with multiple weapons-training laws.”

A bipartisan group of lawmakers, however, advanced legislation to remove at least some of the limits imposed on service members in the United States under Republican President George H.W. Bush and Democratic President Bill Clinton in the 1990s.

Sen. Jerry Moran, a Kansas Republican, introduced a bill Thursday that would repeal partial prohibitions on military personnel carrying firearms at domestic installations.

Our men and women in uniform are banned from exercising this constitutional right when fulfilling their duties on American soil,” Moran said. “This infringement on the constitutional rights of our service members has caused American military installations and DOD sites to become increasingly vulnerable to those who wish to do harm.”

In addition to the Chattanooga tragedy, Moran cited four earlier attacks since 2009 when gunmen killed and wounded military personnel at the Navy Yard in Washington, D.C.; the Pentagon in Virginia; a recruiting center in Little Rock, Arkansas; and at Fort Hood in Texas.

Moran’s measure would repeal a Defense Department directive issued Feb. 25, 1992, and an Army regulation issued in March 1993, both of which places limits on where and under what circumstances service members can carry loaded weapons while on base.

In the House, Republican Rep. Scott DesJarlais and Democratic Rep. Steve Cohen, both of Tennessee, gathered 17 co-sponsors from both parties for a similar bill.

We know our military facilities and recruitment centers are targets, and the five victims of last week’s attack in Chattanooga are sad evidence that more must be done to keep them safe,” Cohen said.

Two other Republican lawmakers, Sen. Steve Daines of Montana, an Iraq war veteran, and Rep. Duncan Hunter of California put forward a narrower bill that would authorize one armed service member to be placed at a military recruiting center, many of which are at shopping malls, high schools, universities and other public places to encourage greater access.

Some Americans were not waiting for Congress or the Pentagon to change their laws or practices.

Armed citizens, some alone and others in groups, were standing guard at recruiting centers in Texas, Alabama, Ohio, Virginia and Wisconsin.

Army veteran Terry Jackson said he felt it was his duty to guard the recruiting center in Cleburne, Texas.

It was unacceptable for our soldiers, sailors, our men and women of the military to go over and serve and go into combat, and then come back here to the homeland and be gunned down on their home duty stations,” Jackson told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

A former Special Operations officer, who requested anonymity in order to speak candidly about armed forces’ training, said many service members lack sufficient skills to carry loaded weapons.

“If you’re going to be involved at recruiting centers or protecting the public, you should be able to fire at least 84 percent of your rounds into a life-size target at 25 yards,” the officer told McClatchy.

He said most military personnel are not at that level of weapons proficiency.

Nevertheless, some military leaders disagreed with the current prohibitions in place.

At his Senate confirmation hearing to become Army chief of staff, Gen. Mark Milley said the Pentagon should weigh arming recruiters and other personnel.

“I think under certain conditions, both on military bases and in outstations, we should seriously consider it, and under certain conditions, I think it’s appropriate,” Milley told the Senate Armed Services Committee on Tuesday.

Martin Schwartz, a former New York City police officer and retired criminal investigator for the U.S. Treasury Department, said the number of military police needs to be increased and more of them should be sent to 
recruiting centers.

Schwartz also said that the current regulation that prohibits some military police from carrying loaded handguns while on duty should be repealed.

This is an insane policy that places them and the public at risk,” Schwartz told McClatchy. “It takes too long in an emergency to rack a round into an empty chamber. That’s life-or-death time.”

Gov. Bobby Jindal, a Louisiana Republican who is running for president, expressed no sympathy for claims by Abdulazeez’s family that he suffered from depression in the months leading up to his assault.

“@BobbyJindal: Is any terrorist who kills innocent people in cold blood mentally healthy? No!  Stop with excuses for Radical Islam,” Jindal tweeted.

–James Rosen
McClatchy Washington Bureau

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9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Why don't they just disarm the entire military and get it over with? How much longer is this giant slave plantation we call a country going to put up with this insanity?

marie said...

Obama had the Justice Department do background checks on all of these BRAVE AMERICANS who on their own time are guarding our military. SHAME ON YOU OBAMA AND THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND ANYONE ELSE ALLOWING THIS CRAP!!!

Anonymous said...

Our American soldiers deserve better ! This gov. has spent trillions of FIAT dollars on training and equipping foreign/mercenary soldiers. Besides hiding them out in underground tunnels, they also strut them through the Military Industrial Complex aka/U.S.Corp.military installations. They set up the Chattanooga HOAX as a message...using OUR deceased soldiers names, and then tell OUR soldiers, they can't wear/ use their weapons which they have earned and MUST wear ? That is a slap in the face to them and to all of America.. but that was what was intended. Wasn't it ?
They want to get something stirred up. It is up to all of us and OUR Military to stay cool, calm and collected.We will take care of our own, and "expect" you, U.S.Corp/Military Industrial Complex and CEO "O" to stop your "trying to get something started" because none of us are going to fall for it so that you can make those still "half awake" think you are the good guys and gals after you have created the "chaos" you have been trying to start. You need to "re-think" what change really needs to be. The "WORLD" wants peace and they are letting you know that "every day". Think about it !

Dan said...

Now in this story shows that we Americans do need the 2nd Amendment in our own home as a 911 call didn't do much good to save all 5 deaths from their own family killers.
Maybe the father was attacked first and he would have been the only one to get the gun, so maybe my idea would be off the wall, yet on the other hand you need to think about it as if the mother could have gotten it as well.

Police: 5 Family Members Stabbed to Death in Oklahoma House
http://www.infowars.com/police-5-family-members-stabbed-to-death-in-oklahoma-house/
Police found five family members dead inside a Broken Arrow, Okla., house Wednesday night
by Ginger Adams Otis | New York Daily News | July 24, 2015
A silent 911 call led police to a gruesome scene in an upscale suburb of Tulsa, Okla.: five family members brutally stabbed, and the two brothers suspected of killing them hiding in the woods nearby.
Broken Arrow police on Thursday detained two teenage brothers, aged 16 and 18, in the knifing deaths of their parents and three younger siblings.
The names and ages of the adults weren’t released pending notification of next of kin, cops said. The child victims were two boys, aged 12 and 7, and a 5-year-old girl.
Two other sisters, one 13 and one 2, survived the horrific attack, police said.
The teen was found moaning at the door with critical stab wounds, while most of her family lay dead or dying around her, cops said. The 2-year-old was unharmed.
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Anonymous said...

If the galactic wave information is true, it will impact people's perception and they will have mental experiences.
There is nothing like an armed base with some people's mind short circuited from some mind programming and they go mental and turn on the rest of the people there.

It would be pure chaos.
We know many have signed secret agreements to do secret things and receive secret training which includes secret programming and secret assignments within their own departments.

The people standing outside with guns, when that wave comes through, how it affects their mind will determine whether everyone around them is safe or sorry.

We do not know everything.
We will not be able to know everything.
There are lots of pieces of information that can make sense of what's going on.

As for people concerned about someone watching them from some drone in the sky; walk into your living room and bedroom, the eavesdropping device is in there. You purchased it. It's your smart t.v. Smart enough to capture your conversations cause you keep it powered all the time. It's never unplugged.

Get rid of the paranoia, and think just a little past what the next guy or girl tells you to think about.

Everyone will be the enemy to people who need an enemy.
The only people they can trust is the people they know and those they THINK they know.

I'll all be over by the end of the year, the galactic wave if it is real, will have passed through our space by then.

I have read and heard many times to get plenty of sleep now to build the mind for when the wave comes, and that the best thing to do when the chaos starts when it arrives and drive mens minds mad, is to go to bed and sleep.

We may have our three days of darkness with all the activity of the people and animals affected by the presence of the wave, if it's real.

If it's not real, then no need to worry about guns.
When our military had guns overseas, the perceived enemy did not go within walking distance to pick them off or to shoot a them, the perceived enemy spotted them a mile away, and pock shot them down from a distance, like picking a can off a fence post with your rifle or some nonsense.

These guys whoever they are will start shooting in directions they thought the shot came from and people will be hurt, the one shot at, the ones shot back at and anyone in the middle of that mess.

Yes the military recruiting centers are being told those holding guns outside their doors are dangerous. If that galactic wave comes through and messes with their minds, yes they will be dangerous. If portals open to other dimensions and they start seeing things that they fear, they will shoot at it, whether it is in physical form or not. Yes, they will be dangerous.

I'm not mad at them.
Lack of knowledge or awareness and inability to predict the future can be dangerous anyway.

Freewill said...

10th Amendment powers: Powers not delegated to the Federal Government reside within the state respectively, or within the people. So, as one of the feople, I have all the powers! I do not delegate any powers of authority to them and I will give the orders... Why? Because I can and I said so!

Anonymous said...

Re:11:26 A.M.
I think the wave all ready hit you.

Anonymous said...

Why would you condemn people who are helping people. Too many chemtrails floating around you. Detox please.

Anonymous said...

11:26am here.
Yeah, that's possible. Ha ha.